Post by porsche on Mar 17, 2016 6:28:23 GMT
Well...this isn't good. I'm trying really hard not to get paranoid, but I have a lot to lose here. Every time you vote in the minority you really question your place in the game. Going into this round I thought I was on top. I had two four player alliances, I knew people trusted me and I was just going with the house, taking out the easy targets people weren't connected to and throwing everything. The game was pretty easy and I saw myself as in the top 3 on almost everyone's list of their favorites.
That's not the case anymore. Luckily for me, Marvin stayed and knows that I'm on his side and he'll be a big target just like I wanted. But even though I voted for Will and Will left, that was only because of Marvin's power and Jen unexpectedly breaking the tie in Marvin's favor. When I left for class, I was preparing on how to move forward in the game with Marvin out and Will in. But that doesn't change the fact that I was on the wrong end of what would have been a 5-2 vote if everyone's votes counted.
And me voting in the minority isn't what bothers me. I knew that Marvin wasn't well-liked and that he would be getting votes to evict, but I saw an opportunity to keep him in the game and get out someone that was in the middle and unpredictable. But judging from his reaction to me, he felt close to me (though closer to David and Sarah at the very least) and betrayed when I voted him out. So I just played that round badly I think. Marvin is a huge target but he's also the definition of a sinking ship. If I knew that everyone, even David, was voting him out, it might have made more sense to follow the house. I think I campaigned to keep him too much.
But what bothers me is that everyone lied about it. Not even lied, so much as lead on. People played this vote very coy with me. I didn't get a lot of information and the info I got was not accurate. I think this was due in large part to Marvin's power. They knew there was a chance he could stay if he used it and wanted him to use it on the wrong people so everyone who was going to evict him still got to vote. And if they wanted to lead him on so he used it on the wrong people, then by playing coy about it with me, that means that they didn't trust me.
With me having to rethink about this game, I think it's time for another cast rundown. I'm doing it alphabetically, not by rankings, because I have no clue how I would rank these players.
Austin: Austin is one of the few people I still trust. There was the whole weird deal with the Jen/Sarah alliance and the he said/she said on who started it. I believe Jen/Sarah's story more, which makes it weird when Austin told me how sorry he was that he was forced into that position and how he would love to get me/David involved when he was the one who set it up. But he's the only other person who voted for Will and besides that one weird situation with the alliance, he hasn't done anything that made me question him. I trust him and I feel very good that he trusts me. I'd like to think that after David's Marvin vote, he trusts me the most.
Cody: Cody makes me very nervous. He's already told Jen that he thought it was "weird" that I was voting to keep Marvin, which I can see why he would think that from his perspective, but it doesn't make me feel good. It's very difficult to get a read on him because of the way he talks. It's very light, flitting from topic to topic and not heavy on game at all. I don't know what our relationship is like now because we haven't spoken at all about game ever since I suggested keeping Marvin. And then he has these very passionate opinions about the game that come out of nowhere, which is great when we agree like on keeping Sarah, and not so great when we disagree. We haven't even talked about the vote since it happened. I'm very very happy that he can't win HOH.
David: I'm not very sure what to think about David now. He was telling me before the veto that he was on board to keep Marvin and even agreed that Will wasn't as active and said that he didn't talk to him anymore. And then on the night before the vote, he suddenly dropped it on me that he wasn't as solid on keeping Marvin anymore and started to strongly hint that he was voting him out. I talked with him and his opinions didn't change though he said he was on the fence. He has to be close with more than just me and Austin, right? He did speak well about Sarah and Louise earlier. I know he's on Jen's radar and I wouldn't be surprised if he was on Cody's or Mark's eventually. I don't want him to go but if he's a target, better him than me. I'll have to find out just how much he knew. I do appreciate that he was at least honest with me about his thoughts and I feel good about him being on my side. I need him to be. Jen suspects a David/Cody/Mark alliance. I don't think David and Cody would work together. If that alliance does exist though, that's people from my two four player alliances, which would mean I would be exposed. And it doesn't feel like that's happened. I still want to work with David, though Austin has a point that he might have known more than he was letting on. One thing that I did notice, though, was him saying he wanted Marvin out because he would be a bitter juror. If he wanted to make it to the end with me or Austin, Marvin being bitter or not doesn't matter.
Jen: Jen is off my radar now. Well, not completely. I'm still aware that she's a strong player and I know she sees me as a social player. But I think we need each other, and we know it. She's gotten paranoid of an alliance formed to keep Will safe. I think she's just being paranoid, but I've also noticed how weird that whole vote was. The people who I thought I had connections with aren't telling me everything, and I don't think it hurts to be cautious. I have more people to worry about than her. I think there's a much bigger chance my name comes up this round than there was prejury and I know I'm one of the few Jen trusts. However, I do not want her getting to the end.
Louise: I feel like I've had on Louise-blinders for the longest time. I've adored her so much that I think I forgot that she's playing the game. She's a pretty social player, and I am not happy with her for that last vote. When I talked to her last night I was expecting her to say she wanted Marvin out. She said she didn't like him before and if she said that I would understand. However, she told me she would follow what I did while at the same time telling Jen she would follow what Jen did. And then when I say that I'm keeping Marvin, she agrees with me without verbally agreeing, saying she's gotten to like him, talking about giving him tips to improve his social game, that Will didn't really talk to her, how she really tried changing Cody's mind to keep Marvin. Everything except for actually committing to the vote. And then when the votes are revealed, she voted Marvin out and apparently lied right to his face.
I talked with her tonight and it went pretty well. She apologized and told Jen to evict Will and it was backed up by Jen. But still, that means that she got what she wanted but didn't have to stick her neck out which annoys me. And when explaining her vote, she said this:
Louise Cliffe (22:39:11):
i did not realize Austin was voting him and i was awful busy
But last night, I had already told her Austin was voting Will:
Porsche Briggs (01:29:54): but from what I'm getting, I think Austin would evict Will, Mark and David seem on the fence
I feel better about Louise than I did after the vote, when I looked back on everything she had been saying and it felt super slimy, but I also don't totally trust her, and I'm glad that at least this vote showed me I should keep an eye on her.
Mark: Really not sure how to feel about him. I've bounced back and forth. Earlier before the vote I was thinking of him as a potential final 2 partner, especially when he brought up a final 3 with Jen. After the vote, I was upset with him. He had avoided committing to anything, either for voting for Will or voting for Marvin, when talking to me and he gave the sense that he was open to it and was even talking as if he was seeing my side more than Cody's. He even said losing Will was not a loss. And then when everyone else talked to me about him, they said he was campaigning for Marvin to leave and I feel weird that he wouldn't just tell me that. His reasons for voting out Marvin do make sense but I just wish he had filled me in. I don't see the point in keeping it secret, unless he didn't want me to tell Marvin. But I talked with him and I think we're good, though I can't say for certain. A couple things in our conversation stood out to me though, and I don't know if he knows more than he's letting on.
Mark Byron
And no I don't trust Cody more than you... I think Cody talked WAY too much game to people this last week. I'll still be happy to work with you and Jen as long as our final 3 can be real and I'm not a pawn for any other alliances
Me worrying about him trusting Cody more than me hadn't even been brought up in our conversation but I shared those concerns with Jen. Jen said she was paranoid about Mark. I don't know. And where did the worry about being a pawn for other alliances come from?
Marvin: He frustrates me. I do think I'm the one he trusts the most and after the mess this week was, I'm very happy he's still in the game. He is a great shield but he's starting to become a liability. Maybe he already was a liability and I should have just let him go last round. I'm sure I'm linked to him now and I don't know what to do about it. Unless me or Austin or (maybe) David or Louise win he's going up and if he's on the block I think he goes home. I'm not sure if that would be good for me or not. I know I'm good with him and I know he's a shield, but it also might be easier to be trusted if people weren't worried about my connection with Marvin. I'm also a little worried I could be the pawn next to him. You want to get him out, put up someone who pushed for him to stay so they don't get a vote or influence. I think I would stay, but what if he won the veto? And also, he is not keeping up the effort with his social game! He apparently had a great conversation with Mark to stay off the block but then Mark complained that Marvin didn't even talk to him after he was HOH. I feel like I'm putting in more effort to keep Marvin safe than Marvin is and it's annoying.
Sarah: I'm not sure what happened. I thought I was on great terms with her a couple weeks ago, especially when she told me about the Austin alliance and now it just doesn't feel the same. Today is the first time I've talked with her in three days and she has been busy so I'm not worried about that, but it felt so different and not like a Sarah conversation at all. It sounded like she thought I manipulated Austin into voting for Will, seemed upset that Will left without ever really getting into it or admitting she was upset, and it just felt short and abrupt. I don't know if I made the right choice keeping her around over Amy, but Amy's social game was not good, and pushing for that would have been even worse than what happened this round.
So, I'm feeling a little nervous. When I saw the HOH competition, I was thinking, "perfect, I'll just throw again. I'll just "find" the Get out of HOH card and post it late." But now I might need to win. I don't think I'm in danger. If I do go up, I assume it would be against Marvin and I would stay. But I'm not in as good of a position as I thought, and the last round was eye opening. If I won, I would probably put up Sarah and Cody, just because I feel like those are the two who are questioning me the most, but I would need to think about it. The only people who I wouldn't touch are Austin and Jen and probably David and Marvin. Putting up Cody would be a headache because it would be breaking the alliance, but I don't even know how real that is anymore. Someone like Austin winning would be the best case scenario.