David's Here Too

[David]

I will post my questions in the morning, they will be very easy to answer but I'm drunk af right now.

[David]

Hello ladies, congrats to both of you for making it to the end.

Porsche- Obviously, I'm inclined to vote for you and I know that my vacation is what blew my social game apart. One other piece of information that I must confess is that I told everyone you and Austin were a pair *constantly*. I think you knew that, but I wanted to get that off my chest. I'm honestly inclined to vote for you, but nothing is quite set in stone yet.

Sarah- I'm less happy with you right now but don't count me out just yet. Out of everyone, probably even Porsche, I was completely open and honest with you every time. I told you I wouldn't nominate you during my HoH, and I didn't. Tldr, every promise I made to you, I planned on keeping. Now, obviously our relationship was lopsided because you put me up and voted for me. Why should I vote for you?

Both- Nothing too crazy here, but I want to know what you learned personally about each juror, so give me one piece of information about them that isn't game related to show me that you actually built relationships and weren't just game bots. Also, because I'm narcissistic, tell me what I did to get you to the end. And last, not including yourself, which 5 people would you send to represent our ~fabulous~ season in All Stars and why? For both those, short answers are fine, I don't need an essay lol

Best of luck to both of you.

[porsche]

Hello ladies, congrats to both of you for making it to the end.

Thanks David!

Porsche- Obviously, I'm inclined to vote for you and I know that my vacation is what blew my social game apart. One other piece of information that I must confess is that I told everyone you and Austin were a pair *constantly*. I think you knew that, but I wanted to get that off my chest. I'm honestly inclined to vote for you, but nothing is quite set in stone yet.

Yeah, I knew. Mark and Sarah both came up to me and told me you were painting me and Austin as a pair. Me and Austin had many conversations over how much we could trust you. That's part of the reason why I voted for you at final 5, and why I left you on the block at final 6.

Both- Nothing too crazy here, but I want to know what you learned personally about each juror, so give me one piece of information about them that isn't game related to show me that you actually built relationships and weren't just game bots.

marvin works in retail, and has never told a customer to fuck off, even though he told Cody that he did. I'm sure Marvin would tell an annoying customer to fuck off if there were no consequences though  

jen is a hottie who, while she's not busy at the bank, enjoys watching superhero TV shows and eating black forest cake.

mark sometimes has to work long hours for his job. But on the bright side, he told me about getting to chat on google hangout with a friend who had moved away.

louise It's so hard to choose. Talking about her love for Love is too easy, so I'll say that Louise goes to UC Irvine which is a great place to find authentic ramen!

Austin I remember him telling me very early on how he had a friend who was having a rough time in her life, and how he was helping her through it.

David Besides your story (you know the one)? You're a stud irl who likes hooking up with hot guys.

cody went out on a date with a great guy, and now he's his boyfriend! He even got Cody a panda.

Also, because I'm narcissistic, tell me what I did to get you to the end.

It was a lot easier getting through the game with you. You were somebody who I felt very close to and it was great knowing I could count on you (well, besides the times you were considering other options ) and to be able to talk with you and destress.

You were a great source of information. I knew when Will and Kaitlin approached you for deals, and when Mark was being shady. All this info helped me keep my finger on the pulse of the game. Most importantly, we compared notes on Mark and Cody, which confirmed my suspicions and ever since then, I was hardcore pushing for them to go.

You nominating Mark and Cody really helped my game too. If Cody had left that round, we would have been in a great position. It didn't work out obviously, but the intention was there.

We also did a great job distancing ourselves from each other. People connected me with Marvin and Austin and Jen, which, yeah, I was close with them, but the two of us were never painted as a pair. I think that is a big reason why we made final 4 together.

And last, not including yourself, which 5 people would you send to represent our ~fabulous~ season in All Stars and why? For both those, short answers are fine, I don't need an essay lol

• David: You were a very strong player. You dominated the early veto competitions, were strong socially, took some risks and made the final 4.
• Mark: Mark was a very strong player in this game. He may have run out of steam towards the end, but while he was in the game he was a physical, social and strategical threat.
• Jen: Jen was a powerhouse in the game. She was set up beautifully until the end of her HOH reign, was strong socially and wasn't afraid of confrontation even when it wasn't best for her game, such as volunteering to be nominated.
• Cody: Cody was a great underdog. He was so close to danger so many times in the game, but kept surviving against all odds and made it all the way to the final 3. I wouldn't say Cody played the best game, but his story arc and his loyalty made him dangerous.
• Sarah: Yes, I'm including my fellow finalist. I don't think Sarah played as well as me, but she was a pretty strong player, and was involved in some of the bigger moves of the season.

[David]

Thanks for your answers Porsche.

[sarah]

I'm less happy with you right now but don't count me out just yet. Out of everyone, probably even Porsche, I was completely open and honest with you every time. I told you I wouldn't nominate you during my HoH, and I didn't. Tldr, every promise I made to you, I planned on keeping. Now, obviously our relationship was lopsided because you put me up and voted for me.

I don't necessarily agree with our relationship being lopsided bb. I was never dishonest with you either. Like I mentioned elsewhere, I lost a lil trust in you after your HoH round, but even after that I was always straight up with you about my intentions. I told you directly I wasn't likely to keep you over Cody during your eviction round, and I hope you don't think I ever gave you false hope or paid you lip service, because if I did that obviously was never my intention. I honestly stand by my decision to evict you even moreso now because it seems like your relationship with Porsche was even stronger than I initially assumed (I didn't believe Austin when he told me during his eviction round that you and Porsche were a duo, but perhaps he was right). I wanted to be in a final 3 that gave me the best chance of getting here regardless of who won the last HoH, and I felt you were a ~threat~ to that fantasy of mine.

Why should I vote for you?

You should vote for me because I think our games were very similar. We were both players that didn't really fall on either "side" of the main conflict, we both made an effort to be honest and direct in our approaches, we both had strong low-key social games, and we were both hella good at comps. I don't know if it's just my ego talking, but when I think I've played well, I think I subconsciously tend to factor in the similarities between my game and finalist games when I'm casting a jury vote. It's kind of my way of crediting the player who pulled off my intended strategy in a way that allowed them to get to the end when I fell short. I played a methodical game that allowed me to fly under the radar while still having control over events in the game and most importantly having security and options every round. I was never in a genuinely BAD position and I never had to resort to less desirable options because I was constantly positioned so well. Let me kind of build a timeline of things as I see them for Porsche's game vs mine so I can clarify what I mean.

F9: Marvin, someone who seemed to be against me in the game, goes home & Mark and I establish a strong relationship as a result of the round. The house becomes divided, but I don't really lose any social capital because of it.
Porsche loses an ally after saving him against the majority of the house's will the previous round and the house divide leaves her in not-great standing with quite a few of the players remaining.

F8: You win HoH and we have a conversation that I think established a lot of trust between us. I end up using my DPoV to remove Cody from the block in order to retain my security in the game, ensuring his (and likely Mark's) loyalty, and making a move that will hopefully ensure Cody's longevity in the game with me.
Porsche is backed into a corner because even if she had used the DPoV to take Jen down, Austin would have gone up and gone home. She loses another ally.

F7: I lose an ally, but it's not a huge deal because it also gets rid of a massive competitor and strengthens mine and Cody's bond.
Porsche gets what she wants.

F6: I win HoH and put up you and Austin with the intention of targeting Austin. When Louise leaves instead, it makes me Cody's last remaining option and I can be sure he's ride or die for me -- and Louise was apparently considering targeting me the next round, anyway.
Porsche takes Austin off the block with her special PoV, but alienates Louise with her move, and Austin leaves the next round regardless.

F5: My relationship with Cody pays dividends as he allows me to choose the nominations and we choose who to evict together. Porsche's move to save Austin makes their relationship too obvious, so we take him out.
Porsche loses yet another ally, and votes incorrectly. She stays because I decide to keep her in order to keep the dream of my perfect F3 alive.

F4: I win veto and get to choose who to evict. I evict you for a few reasons. One, because I have explicit final 2 deals with the other remaining players. Two, because I am concerned you could be a potential threat to mine and Porsche's pact, and that the two of you might take each other over me if you were to win final HoH. And three, because I felt our games were too similar and I would find competing against you at the end difficult because of that.
At this point, I also want to clarify that by bringing Cody & Porsche to the F3, I do not believe I was bringing two people I would "find very hard to beat". I believe in the merits of my game and my ability to communicate those. Based on Porsche's OS and other comments in response to people's questions, she seems to think my game was a lot weaker than hers and that I was essentially boned or at least at a massive disadvantage regardless of who I went against at the end. I don't believe that's true at all, and I never did.
Porsche had a high chance of being evicted this round without HoH, and went into final HoH with much lower chances of success than me.

F3: I am essentially guaranteed F2 regardless of the result.
Porsche needs to win in order to make it to the end. 

So I guess what I'm saying here is -- do you vote for the person who played a deliberate, measured game with the explicit goal of making it to the very end, who picked the right allies, controlled the endgame, and was constantly in a good position throughout the jury phase with plenty of options and security regardless of what was going on? Or do you vote for the self-professed "jury threat" who was extremely visible, in massive danger towards the end of the game, had a relative lack of control, options and security for the majority of the jury phase, and ultimately had to win out on comps to get here? I don't want to sound like I'm discrediting Porsche's game, because that's not my intention at all. I just honestly believe mine was better. 

I'll answer the other questions later, I've got travelling to do for now

Thanks David!

[sarah]

stuff about jurors!
Marvin likes rock music! He grew up on it and now enjoys genres like alt and punk rock.
Jen likes superheroes, HTGAWM, the Know It Alls podcasts and spicy food!
Mark is a great cook (you never did tell me how that Asian pork stuff you made turned out tho) and loves Debbie, Tai and Aubry from Kaoh Rong!
Louise studies biology and is currently taking a biological anthropology class similar to one I took! Her favourite snack food is pop tarts and Cheez its are her back up :3
Austin likes drugs and had not a lot of success completing comps while high!
David wants me to use my genetics expertise to make him superhuman! We also share a common distaste for Joel from BBCAN4! #SharryWasPushed
Cody is really good at graphics (Hide n Seekers <3) and will have parenting skills that will be about as good as mine!

[sarah]

what you did to get me to the end: when I was DEAD SICK of everyone's bullshit I could always rely on you to shoot straight with me and spin quality yarns. you were a big contributor to maintenance of my SANITY. you were also ~inspirational~ to me in that you were masterfully playing the diplomatic middle-man type role that I really wanted to play, so I tried to emulate your gameplay where I could. the trust and open communication between us was also a plus. you not nominating me during your HoH reign was helpful too, obv.

all stars!
Porsche - can't not include my fellow finalist.
Mark - big character, especially in the rounds leading up to his eviction. He was the ~talk of the town~
David - your snark, wit and ~realness~ would be even better in an AS season
Cody - I'm biased because he's my bae, but he made the final 3 entirely on his own social and competitive merit and has the most adorably genuine personality.
Janelle - where would we be without Janelle?
Jk, Jen - HBIC
AND if we're talking JUST jurors then I'd obviously remove Porsche and add Louise because I can't get enough emojis

[David]

Sarah, I just need you to know that I yelled SHARRY WAS PUSHED when I read that.

Thank you both for your answers, best of luck.

[Austin]

I like smoking pot, that's about it. That made it sound like I'm some sort iof junkie lmfao